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Portsmouth issued with a winding-up petition by HMRC over £1.6m unpaid tax
Ridiculous
Ridiculous
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northwitch played there cup home game away last night due to having no ground now i have been on there web site
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According to the Marine webiste, their game goes ahead on Saturday at Northwich
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Latest hereGlyn wrote:Portsmouth issued with a winding-up petition by HMRC over £1.6m unpaid tax
Ridiculous
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16797287.stm
Love the way they talk about it as though this is just normal run-of-the-mill business
Hate to say it, but let them die, and good luck to the ST with a phoenix club
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Northwich refuse to sign up to a package that would enable them to stay on their current ground for the remainder of this season.Reading between the lines I wonder if they have some advice that encourages them to think they can extend their stay further? One part of the statement does still cause concern.There is reference to the lease able to be ended on 3 days notice.Is this really acceptable security of tenure for this league? Wasn't this checked after the problem of the first game being postponed? How much do leagues really check these things.We learn that Truro have only this week paid the Revenue& Customs following court action and of course assisting their cashflow in gaining promotion
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I think they are trying to enlist the support of Sport England who may be advising them
Speaking from limited personal experience there is some law / rule / edict which says that (I'm paraphrasing here) if a sporting facility is 'lost' as a result of development, then the sporting body which has lost out then has a right to be compensated with a replacement facility to at least an equal standard. No doubt there are ways around this, but I am aware of one such ongoing case where the sports club in question is getting a better facility than is being lost (but this is because the developer doesn't want to get into a protracted legal wrangle)
The complication here is that NVFC don't actually own their stadium so I wonder if they still enjoy this entitlement. It would be ironic (and highly surprising) if they were given a ground to replace one they never owned!!
Speaking from limited personal experience there is some law / rule / edict which says that (I'm paraphrasing here) if a sporting facility is 'lost' as a result of development, then the sporting body which has lost out then has a right to be compensated with a replacement facility to at least an equal standard. No doubt there are ways around this, but I am aware of one such ongoing case where the sports club in question is getting a better facility than is being lost (but this is because the developer doesn't want to get into a protracted legal wrangle)
The complication here is that NVFC don't actually own their stadium so I wonder if they still enjoy this entitlement. It would be ironic (and highly surprising) if they were given a ground to replace one they never owned!!
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I know three lawyers who support HTFC (one of whom has been known to post on this thread) and one very experienced football administrator, none of whom can work out how the he** Vics were ever allowed to play on having failed to meet the criteria at the start of the season
Maybe the NPL should have employed one of the aforementioned....
Maybe the NPL should have employed one of the aforementioned....
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Having discussed with a work colleague who knows about such things - it seems that the VIcs are stuffed. If they are a tenant then they stand no chance of getting a facility given to them as compensation for being turfed out. THey would only get a new ground if they were the owners of the current venue and we being subjected to a CPO process
The terms of their lease re: notice periods would make interesting reading however
The terms of their lease re: notice periods would make interesting reading however
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Is that a legal term?Perton Pitman wrote:- it seems that the VIcs are stuffed.
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Looks like Darlo may survive as a Supporters-owned clubDel wrote:Darlo saved by the fans - for now!!
http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.c ... _forever_/
http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/inde ... &nid=82206
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I've just been alerted to thisGlyn wrote:I know three lawyers who support HTFC (one of whom has been known to post on this thread) and one very experienced football administrator, none of whom can work out how the he** Vics were ever allowed to play on having failed to meet the criteria at the start of the season
Maybe the NPL should have employed one of the aforementioned....
http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/jump? ... s-10608%2F
Best I don't comment!
BTW I'll copy this to the Vics thread
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=369
and since they're a special case can we have any further posts about them on that one please
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Pompey latestGlyn wrote:Latest hereGlyn wrote:Portsmouth issued with a winding-up petition by HMRC over £1.6m unpaid tax
Ridiculous
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16797287.stm
Love the way they talk about it as though this is just normal run-of-the-mill business
Hate to say it, but let them die, and good luck to the ST with a phoenix club
This has a familiar ring to it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16970312
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Every chance Kettering v Telford will be off on Saturday, but had it gone ahead it would have been behind closed doors as KTFC haven't paid their police bill
http://www.northants.police.uk/default.aspx?id=9205
http://www.northants.police.uk/default.aspx?id=9205
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Portsmouth may have had their wings clipped by the taxman successfully getting their bank accounts frozen, but it has not stopped them flying to tomorrows game at Blackpool as the flights were booked before the accounts frozen.Glyn wrote:Pompey latestGlyn wrote:Latest hereGlyn wrote:Portsmouth issued with a winding-up petition by HMRC over £1.6m unpaid tax
Ridiculous
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16797287.stm
Love the way they talk about it as though this is just normal run-of-the-mill business
Hate to say it, but let them die, and good luck to the ST with a phoenix club
This has a familiar ring to it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16970312
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Every chance the pitch will be frozen - I recall that Blackpool were the only Premier League team last season which didn't have undersoil heating? So it may be a wasted journey anyway. Doh!FOZZIE wrote:
Portsmouth may have had their wings clipped by the taxman successfully getting their bank accounts frozen, but it has not stopped them flying to tomorrows game at Blackpool as the flights were booked before the accounts frozen.
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You've got to laugh..... or you'd cry,.....
Q: What has four legs and more money than Rangers?
A: Harry Redknapp's dog
Q: What has four legs and more money than Rangers?
A: Harry Redknapp's dog
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According to the BBC webiste Rangers have 177 employees of which 32 are classed as 'first team squad' (!!!) with another 13 employed in media and PR roles (!!!)
Job cuts are inevitable so the article says.
I know where I'd start!
Job cuts are inevitable so the article says.
I know where I'd start!
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Good spot, full list herePerton Pitman wrote:According to the BBC webiste Rangers have 177 employees of which 32 are classed as 'first team squad' (!!!) with another 13 employed in media and PR roles (!!!)
Job cuts are inevitable so the article says.
I know where I'd start!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17053571
It is truly staggering how these clubs have built up their backroom staff, especially with an army of coaches, movement experts, video analysts, sports psychologists and dieticians..... yet still their players can't find a colleague with a 5-yard pass.....
... like this lot at Villa Park....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17045572
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-17067141
Hmmm. Something is rotten in the state of Govan
Hmmm. Something is rotten in the state of Govan
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Pompey in admin again - and how desperate is this....Glyn wrote:Pompey latestGlyn wrote:Latest hereGlyn wrote:Portsmouth issued with a winding-up petition by HMRC over £1.6m unpaid tax
Ridiculous
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16797287.stm
Love the way they talk about it as though this is just normal run-of-the-mill business
Hate to say it, but let them die, and good luck to the ST with a phoenix club
This has a familiar ring to it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16970312
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17067079
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The only people that suffer from point deductions is players and fans, seems unfair to me
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... but what would you do? - you can't levy a financial punishment, they have no money!MarcJ wrote:The only people that suffer from point deductions is players and fans, seems unfair to me
Other clubs are effectively defrauded when clubs cheat by not paying their bills - we've suffered ourselves in recent seasons by trying to compete on an uneven playing field
The only meaningful disincentive might be a two-division relegation for going into administration, or some such, with the current season's playing record expunged. That still punishes players and fans but might put an end to mismanagement. Or it might not...
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i read in NLP that if darlington were to survive and they get relegated they would drop down 2 levels into the northern premier league next season
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Portsmouth administrator reveals on Five Live that their highest-paid player is/was on £30k+ per week. NOW does everyone agree that they were cheating and deserve a two-division (at least) relegation....Glyn wrote:... but what would you do? - you can't levy a financial punishment, they have no money!MarcJ wrote:The only people that suffer from point deductions is players and fans, seems unfair to me
Other clubs are effectively defrauded when clubs cheat by not paying their bills - we've suffered ourselves in recent seasons by trying to compete on an uneven playing field
The only meaningful disincentive might be a two-division relegation for going into administration, or some such, with the current season's playing record expunged. That still punishes players and fans but might put an end to mismanagement. Or it might not...
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