Clubs in crisis

Post by **Del** » Sun Aug 26 2012 9:06 pm

Perton Pitman wrote:Jojo Investco - what's all that about then????

Bit of info ...
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Club-gr ... story.html

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Mon Aug 27 2012 12:38 pm

Del wrote:
Perton Pitman wrote:Jojo Investco - what's all that about then????
Bit of info ...
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Club-gr ... story.html

Wish I had time to look at that link to "how to retire at 55"

cds · Post by **cds** » Sat Sep 01 2012 10:16 am

The inevitable finally happens at Truro:

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Truro-C ... story.html

A sobering view and a rare voice of reason here also - Vics/Fylde/Eastwood/insert any other 'ambitious' club here - take note

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Sobey-T ... story.html

Post by **Dobba** » Sat Sep 01 2012 7:00 pm

Can we be retrospectively promoted?

Perton Pitman · Post by **Perton Pitman** » Sun Sep 02 2012 7:58 am

Not a surprise, but (and this goes against the grain when it comes to my views on such matters) if Truro do go to the wall then it could be argued that the vast majority of supporters will have little regret. Without Heaney's money they would still be kicking around on pitches little better than those you would see in a park against village teams from within their own county.

Those fans that jumped on the bandwagon would have missed out on winning a final at Wembley (how many Non-League clubs have achieved that feat?), numerous promotions and, I daresay, many memorable days and nights over the past 6 or 7 years.

Truro does not have the proud history of the likes of Telford, Nunny, Runcorn, Darlo et al who have all gone under only to be resurrected in another guise. Truro has more in common with the likes of Colne Dynamoes who were another rare example of a club that came from nowhere to quickly challenge the established order and then disappeared just as quickly.

Those volunteers that would have been helping Truro along in local football played out in front of a few dozen spectators would probably argue that they wouldn't have changed a thing and that they have no regrets, I guess deep down they never thought it was sustainable.

Whatever happens to Truro I think that in the non too distant future they will re-emerge and will be playing local football on an amatuer basis and at least the fans that decide to stick with the club will have some great memories to look back on.

Despite all of the above I do think that the whole thing is just plain 'wrong' and the likes of Fylde and so on will go through the same cycle in the next few years

Post by **Del** » Wed Sep 05 2012 7:50 am

Truro City now gone into administration:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19481426

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Wed Sep 05 2012 12:07 pm

Del wrote:Truro City now gone into administration:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19481426

Thanks Del, and for texting that to me this morning.... hence I passed on the news to my closest HTFC confidantes, and it's fair to say the reaction was unanimous....

But I can't put here what was said....

Post by **Del** » Wed Sep 05 2012 1:09 pm

Their fans reckon they could already be the first club to be relegated this season ... truly an honour!!

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Fri Sep 07 2012 1:05 pm

Assuming that Windsor FC are the phoenix that rose from the ashes of Windsor and Eton - and I may be wrong, but anyway....

http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/inde ... &nid=87554

Another club going back to amateur status

It could catch on....

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Mon Sep 10 2012 6:46 pm

Truro latest

http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/mana ... um=twitter

For those of us who thought we might struggle to get through the season with a squad of 16 (or 17, or 21), be grateful for small mercies...

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Wed Sep 12 2012 11:26 am

Glyn wrote:
Glyn wrote:Looks like Llanelli may follow Neath's example of going into Europe on behalf of Wales one year and going out of existence the next...

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... -t-improve

Llanelli issued with winding-up petition

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... witterfeed

The WPL will be down to about 6 teams by next season....

Latest:

http://welsh-premier.com/index.php/lead ... heath-park

Is it really worth bothering, with a gate of 144 for their only home league game this season (despite having consistently finished in the top four and qualifying for Europe) - can't find last season's stats, but they won't have been much better

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... ts-2012-13

I'm afraid the WPL as a whole is in crisis....

Perton Pitman · Post by **Perton Pitman** » Thu Sep 13 2012 12:56 pm

I seem to remember reading something written by Colwyn Bay when the idea of a WPL was becoming a reality (I think it was in their programme) to the effect that those teams in the English pyramid were being bullied into joining the WPL. The view at the time was that the league would generate little interest and would not be viable over time given the expense of competing in it

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Thu Sep 13 2012 3:54 pm

Perton Pitman wrote:I seem to remember reading something written by Colwyn Bay when the idea of a WPL was becoming a reality (I think it was in their programme) to the effect that those teams in the English pyramid were being bullied into joining the WPL. The view at the time was that the league would generate little interest and would not be viable over time given the expense of competing in it

You're not far wrong PP.

The "exiles" ie Bay, Newport and Merthyr (at the time) together, to a lesser extent, with Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham were treated like pariahs by the FAW, although of course they'd have been delighted to have any of the latter three representing them in Europe, instead of those WPL clubs who have done so as valiantly as they can (and with a little success, plenty of publicity and earning plenty of Euros in the process); the WPL continues to pretend to be far bigger than it is with 500-minimum seating requirements (when few of the clubs get anywhere near that) and having to fulfil all sorts of criteria to gain domestic and UEFA licenses, most of which are academic

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Sun Sep 16 2012 9:54 am

Glyn wrote:Truro latest

http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/mana ... um=twitter

For those of us who thought we might struggle to get through the season with a squad of 16 (or 17, or 21), be grateful for small mercies...

This link from Facebook. Your heart bleeds doesn't it...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... oalie.html

Perton Pitman · Post by **Perton Pitman** » Sun Sep 16 2012 8:46 pm

Debts of Â£700K is a pretty outrageous position to get into. I am sure someone will do the maths, but assuming most of this is owed to the taxman, I wonder what the wage bill has been over the last half dozen years!

Post by **Del** » Sun Sep 16 2012 10:48 pm

Winding up order day tomorrow (or today if you read this on Monday 17th!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19463003

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Mon Sep 17 2012 11:05 am

Del wrote:Winding up order day tomorrow (or today if you read this on Monday 17th!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19463003

... but that concludes by saying that the winding-up order would be dismissed if an administration order were made, and they have now gone into admin haven't they??

It all still stinks, either way

Post by **Del** » Tue Sep 18 2012 1:44 pm

Latest news from the captain!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19622505

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Tue Sep 18 2012 4:54 pm

Del wrote:Latest news from the captain!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19622505

If it were a horse (or a badger), they'd have shot it by now...

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Fri Sep 28 2012 12:41 pm

Glyn wrote:
Del wrote:Winding up order day tomorrow (or today if you read this on Monday 17th!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19463003
... but that concludes by saying that the winding-up order would be dismissed if an administration order were made, and they have now gone into admin haven't they??

It all still stinks, either way

Another week, another deadline

http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/trur ... um=twitter

If it was a horse they'd have shot it by now...

Post by **Del** » Fri Sep 28 2012 4:11 pm

And the BBC view is here!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19757876

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Fri Sep 28 2012 6:43 pm

Del wrote:And the BBC view is here!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19757876

Good point about potential wasted journeys - If I were running one of the clubs contemplating travelling down there, I'd refuse to go

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Tue Oct 02 2012 12:38 pm

Glyn wrote:
Glyn wrote:
Glyn wrote:Looks like Llanelli may follow Neath's example of going into Europe on behalf of Wales one year and going out of existence the next...

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... -t-improve

Llanelli issued with winding-up petition

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... witterfeed

The WPL will be down to about 6 teams by next season....

Latest:

http://welsh-premier.com/index.php/lead ... heath-park

Is it really worth bothering, with a gate of 144 for their only home league game this season (despite having consistently finished in the top four and qualifying for Europe) - can't find last season's stats, but they won't have been much better

http://www.welsh-premier.com/index.php/ ... ts-2012-13

I'm afraid the WPL as a whole is in crisis....

Let's count our blessings that our club isn't run like this - and remember, they have played in Europe for the last several seasons....

http://welsh-premier.com/index.php/lead ... ers-strike

Glyn · Post by **Glyn** » Thu Oct 04 2012 11:27 am

Another stay of execution for Truro - debts "only Â£190k"!

http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/inde ... &nid=88258

Perton Pitman · Post by **Perton Pitman** » Thu Oct 04 2012 12:24 pm

The phrase about the scale of debts being negotiated downwards is interesting. In other words they are not paying creditors what they should have done and so they will be out of credit. I wonder if HMRC (who, let's not forget act on behalf of the wider community) are one of these?!

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